00:00.00 archpodnet Welcome to the show. Everyone Paul how's it going. 00:04.54 Paul It's going pretty good actually I still aren't unemployed, but that means that I've been getting you know a lot of time to do things around the house after being gone you know half of last year and I've had all sorts of different projects things that I wasn't able to work on that had been percolating and so I hope but. 00:16.81 archpodnet Ah, yeah. 00:22.20 Paul I've just been on this great creative streak. Um the ah the software. The total station software that I've been working on forever is in great shape and it's up on Github and um I'm trying to figure out how to publicize it because I've been off of Twitter for the last few weeks because I got so fed up with it. 00:33.52 archpodnet Ah. 00:42.00 Paul And that would normally be my go-to but you know I've I've had time then not doom scrolling to do other things and it's been good I mean yeah, just the weirdest little things like I had um an exporter for the data. 00:42.83 archpodnet M. 00:52.90 archpodnet Um. 00:59.38 archpodnet Oh. 01:00.97 Paul That worked great with qgis and I had a note to myself to to test it with Arcgis I couldn't do that in the field because I didn't have rgis on my computer in the field but I've got it on an extra computer I've got here at home. So I tried it and it didn't work no surprise and then just kind of googling something randomly I found that there was a python. ah ah python package for creating shapefiles I was like oh that's interesting I looked at it. It was easy converted that whole exporter from exporting Csv to shapefiles now it works with my qgis and it works with rgis. 01:25.58 archpodnet Um. 01:34.92 Paul And then I'm like well you know now that I've got it working so beautifully with qgis I spent a couple days and built a qgis plugin to ah to do the imports from the ah from the exported data and it's just all kind of coming together like that. Um I'm sitting here working on a little. 01:48.41 archpodnet Um, nice. 01:50.13 Paul Sensor that I'm going to ah build modules of for raspberry pi peo with um, ah temperature and baromectric pressure sensor and maybe I might integrate that into my software too. You know, just exploring lots of little things and wow it's been a lot of fun have you been Chris. 02:05.50 archpodnet Yeah, but let me ask you about Twitter real quick. Well let me ask you about Twitter real quick because you you use Twitter a lot more than I do I don't know if you'd consider yourself a power user but you definitely use it a lot more than I do and but when I was. 02:09.80 Paul Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 02:21.83 archpodnet It was a while back but when I was more heavily into Twitter I had all these lists and and groups and what do you call them? Group map groups. But I guess lists and then like like I used ah, what did I use I used an app was it hootsuite or something like that. Where. 02:37.33 Paul Move. 02:39.49 archpodnet You can have just different columns and you can have those filtered to a Hashtag or filtered to a list of people that you follow or something like that and I never I almost never like just went to like regular just Twitter you know, whatever whatever's on there and just scrolled random stuff. So all these people saying you know oh Twitter's gotten all crazy and it's you know it's all conservative and the the racism has gone up and all this has gone up but like if you don't follow those people and they're not in your lists. How would you ever even see any of that stuff. You know what? I mean like you curate your own content if you want to do you use Twitter in that way. Are you seeing all this other crazy stuff. That's you know. 03:06.69 Paul E. 03:12.61 Paul No I wasn't using I wasn't using the way that that you're talking about I basically you know I followed a bunch of people couple thousand. Maybe and I had about 1500 followers and would you know things would just show up on my feed and if. 03:14.57 archpodnet The the Elon Musk effect. 03:22.19 archpodnet M. 03:32.18 Paul Looked interesting I'd get involved in it. It might be a political discussion more often than not or lately it would be an archaeological discussion. But then I also get direct messages from a lot of people because I've got them open so you know I'll have archeology students ask me questions on it and I take time to actually try to answer as best as I can. Um. 03:40.77 archpodnet Sure. 03:51.25 Paul You know what? they're asking. Ah so I've you know I've expanded my network of people I interact with quite a bit with that and a lot of people who are a lot younger than me. Um, you know which is interesting because it it opens my eyes. 03:52.12 archpodnet M. 04:10.00 Paul Ah, to you know, maybe keep my brain a little bit more limber but it opens my eyes to to ways that maybe I wasn't raised to think but that are interesting nonetheless. All that said, yeah I started seeing an uptick of Bots and some really kind of just vile conservative stuff that I can't go along with. 04:27.63 archpodnet Um, sure, really oh my. 04:29.54 Paul Ah, and my Dms were getting pummeed absolutely pummeled with with bot accounts and you know and it stopped being about the conversations I was having and the conversations all started being conversations about Twitter and. 04:44.45 archpodnet Okay, Brian. 04:47.60 Paul That was not interesting to me I mean I thought that it's kind of fun to watch the train wreck of it but it was It wasn't improving my life in any in any meaningful way. So I was like you know what? let me just take a break from this and that's been a few weeks and I haven't missed it with the exception of. 04:57.95 archpodnet Ah, yeah. 05:05.66 Paul I've lost certain connections like I said I've been on this creative streak and that's in large part I think facilitated by not wasting time on that social media platform. But I don't have a good way of telling people about it I mean I'm telling you about it and telling our listeners about it right now and hopefully I get some engagement that way. 05:21.84 archpodnet Ah. 05:24.44 Paul But my typical way of of announcing something that interests me and and getting responses to it would have been on Twitter and you know we use that to great effect in in the field this last season but I've now cut that off for myself. So. 05:43.67 archpodnet Um, okay. 05:44.50 Paul Yeah, so I just I got fed up with it. It just it wasn't fun anymore and I'd already noticed that I initially started using it because I was getting all sorts of information about the yemeni war from people living in Yemen and. 05:55.52 archpodnet Right. 05:59.21 Paul 1 by 1 those people dropped off I don't know if they died if they went to jail if they got fed up with it I have no idea what happened and now I hardly ever get any Yemen news and you know I get some political stuff and I get a lot of of cultural stuff around. 06:04.44 archpodnet Tris. 06:09.12 archpodnet Wow. 06:16.87 Paul Archeology you know and ah in that in his broadest sense and that's been great, but it's just at the moment I can't deal with all the other garbage and I've looked at other things you know a lot of people moved over to mastodon and I set up a mastodon account on the archaeo dot social. Um. 06:23.57 archpodnet Ah. 06:36.51 Paul Federated. Whatever it's called and it misses for me. What I really liked about Twitter which was that firehose of different people and ideas and things that are going to get me upset and things that you know. 06:38.94 archpodnet Um. 06:52.88 Paul If I go to the bass on pages. It's a bunch of people that I'm friendly with and basically agree with and it it just yeah, it doesn't challenge me but it also I don't mean that like in an intellectual sense I mean it doesn't stimulate me in the same sort of way if I want to have. 07:00.18 archpodnet Doesn't challenge. You? yeah. M. 07:10.43 Paul An archeological discussion that's wonderful, but that's not the only reason why I was going to Twitter I was doing that for archeology. But like I said with those students direct messaging me um more often than not the really interesting discussions would happen not with another archaeologist but somebody that was interested in archeology. 07:13.87 archpodnet Yeah. 07:30.27 Paul And they're not necessarily going to be on that Macedon server. 07:30.60 archpodnet Um, right? Okay well I will tell you 1 place that another thing I want to bring up before we get to the the article for the day. 07:43.17 archpodnet Is and this is only because I've seen you guys having a really good discussion in the last little bit here last couple of days but over on our members slack team if you're not a member go over to arpodnet.comforge/membersone of the I would say primary benefits that you get and it's going to be It's one of these benefits that just gets better and better. The more people get on involved with it and. Ah, well I'll talk about that in a second but the um, the archae architectch channel over there for our members slack team. We got a couple people over there like to really say a lot of things, especially 1 of the people who has been a former guest here Waer Yuperman and he's over in Belgium. Ah, he's an archaeologist and you guys were having a discussion about 1 of our last episodes you care to discuss anything that you guys talked about. Yeah. 08:28.80 Paul Yeah, so um, he commented that he liked Marco ah Marco Volf who was the the last person I interviewed on this podcast. He liked Marco saying no, he doesn't see of himself as a digital archaeologist and this you know that's fine I um. I started out that episode talking about how we are really calling to question the utility of the term digital archeology. But that said Marco you me a lot of people that we talked to on you know people that we've interviewed on this podcast wota himself. Um. 08:49.85 archpodnet Yeah. 09:02.49 Paul Are people who are very comfortable with digital techniques to the point sometimes that we're uncomfortable with non-digital techniques you know and wauter thought that that was ah, an interesting response from ah from marco. 09:08.90 archpodnet Um. 09:19.66 archpodnet Um, yeah. 09:20.34 Paul But then more so I asked Marco toward the end if ah because Marco also does crm work. Well the equivalent of Crm work in Germany and asked him if he's allowed to use the various digital techniques. He's most comfortable with or if it's you know, ruled and regulated. 09:29.10 archpodnet Ah. 09:38.12 Paul To ah such a capacity that he can't do that You know he has to do things on paper or he has to do things in certain regulated ways and and wauter then you know was expressing his own experience doing something very similar in flanders. 09:55.55 archpodnet Yeah. 09:57.84 Paul And you know, but it's just those those perspectives like that and that's something you see Maybe that's part of why I don't feel the need to move over to to mastodon because I have conversations like that with other archaeologists on this podcast and on the ah on the slack channel. 10:15.68 archpodnet Ah. 10:15.75 Paul And not some discords that I'm on and some some various other places where it's you know like minds with different perspectives. Um, which is definitely valuable. You know and it's definitely fun, but but yeah so Walter contributes all the time and and always has good and insightful things to say based off of his own experiences. 10:25.50 archpodnet Yeah. 10:34.92 Paul And so you know he had the ah the commentary on that. Um on that recent interview with Marco and and that was interesting to see you know how different people attack the same sorts of problems or how they're not necessarily encountering them in the field like as I said in that. 10:39.95 archpodnet Nice. 10:53.30 Paul Thread how I'm not really encountering a whole lot about um about rules and regulations about how I conduct my fieldwork when I'm working in the Middle East they just don't exist. There are expectations as an academic. There are expectations um to the department of antiquities in various countries. 11:01.70 archpodnet Right. 11:08.99 Paul Of what I have to do but it's not regulated in the same way that um that Crm is in this country. 11:17.10 archpodnet Um, okay, well like I said lot of interesting discussions happen over here. We need more people to not only engage the ones that we have that are members but also we'd love to have more members if not just to have these kinds of discussions in a ah. Basically it's really a closed forum right? I wouldn't say it's private. We. We don't say anything in here's like sacred but it's it's kind of understood. It is a little bit because it's a little bit of a private club but and you you have to be invited over here to you know to participate so in that respect it kind of is but you know I just. 11:36.65 Paul Um. 11:51.77 archpodnet We really what we really need as a moderator so I'll just put a little bit of a plea out in segment one here hoping hoping more people hear it than not if you find yourself in having 2 different characteristics 1 you're a relatively social person conversant with social media and you know being online and those sorts of things and you don't mind that in 2 you listen to all if not most of the podcasts on the apn in real-time as they come out. That's a tall order but we have tens of thousands of people that are listening to this show right now on the all shows feed. So I know that you know that feed gets 20 to 25 to 40000 downloads a month and. There are a lot of people over there that are listening on that feed. So if you're listening on that feed that means you're hearing everything as it comes out and if you're one of those people that are listening to it in near real time. We would love a volunteer in that slack channel to get a free apn account and go over there and help stimulate conversation. Just. You know, listen to the episode like anybody else would and ask some questions in the channels and and see if we can get people to start these conversations because some people are just finger shy and they don't want to go in there and type. But they're more than happy to comment if they see something coming in so we just need we need people to go in and do that I would love to be that person and have that be my thing but. I'm just stuck editing all the time. So as soon as I'm done doing that and I can get somebody else to edit. That's the first paid job at the apn and I've said that a million times. But if ah if I can ever get that off my plate then I I want to be more engaged in all these other ways but it just can't happen unless we have the content. We don't have the content unless I get. 13:25.29 archpodnet Get this stuff edited so all right? Well with that I think let's just go ahead and take a break. This was the social media segment and we'll get into the article in the next 2 segments and ah see what we can learn about photogrammetry and the way these authors are using it. It's pretty cool. Stay tuned for that. We'll be back in a minute.