00:03.48
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Hello and welcome back to the pseudo archeology podcast episode 101 the mystery of the peer Rece map and when we last left I was talking about mapmaking in general at this time and the difficulties of it. Um, but also the limitations. You know it ain't gonna be perfect. So what are the nuts and bolts of this map because people people curious I get it so the map itself is made on gazelle skin parchment. That's pretty cool and it's pretty big. It's about think of it it as about three feet by two feet so this is like a full sized piece of Gazelle skin and and so on it you have you have these compass roses that you'll sort of see. Throughout and those were used in the map making process and you'll see the lines that were that are drawn with a straight edge out to kind of try and fit everything together as best as possible and as we talked about before you see you know you see Europe North Africa Brazil. And that atlantic region and I would say what? what peer rees gets done the best is that area of like North Africa and the Northern Coast of South America it's not bad like if you look at it you go? Oh yeah, like it you will recognize it instantly as those two things.

01:28.34
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But then it's as you stretch up and down where it gets crazier right? We talked before about one of the biggest difficulties of the map where you just have South America curved around through the bottom and people call that ah Antarctica and it's just not. Like I'm not even going to have that argument. It's like oh can kill it but is it or is it not no, it's a no, it's one of those golden moments in pseudo archeology where it's a hundred percent no it's not and 0% maybe but the fun part is the truth the facts of the P Rees Map right so yes we only have this third that survives but it's cool and it was made from previous sources where the synthesis of many other maps. So what are those sources there's um a lot of kind of arab and indian sources and by indian I mean the subcontinent of India and ah. He also talks about portuguese maps ptolemaic maps and realize that that's sooner. This isn't ancient ancient Egypt this is kind of but Greek Egypt and post that that time. So it's not as. Ancient as that sounds when I say when I say Ptolemaic um, it is a true try at a at a world map but you also to think of that time the time of Columbus where they think of the coast of north and South America that that East Coast

03:02.31
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May also be as the East Coast of asia they kind of conflate they still kind of conflate Asia and north and south america so you kind of have this funky East Coast of Asia is also the East Coast of North and South America kind of amalgamation and you really see that as the map stretches out on the. On the far tips the stuff they don't really know they kind of slap it together. So there's like an island on there where people are like is it Japan is it Cuba. The only way you're going to conflate Japan and Cuba is if you do something like this and I got to tell you it looks like neither. And again I laugh but I feel for pey ree because dude ive been there, you know there's other islands on there that are either made way too big like the azors against scale. It's just fun with scale on this, you know they're they're doing their best but they're also trying to be like hey look it's the azores so they make them really big. Um, and there's 1 or 2 islands that you can't really play so they're like ah obviously Atlantis home man. You know it's extra islands are nothing on these maps. They're screw ups trust me how do I know I've done stuff like this. Let me explain so in my map making history I work a lot in the jungle and my dissertation was all on yes, it was on the sinot daisies pools of water in the jungle but a huge part of it was mapping them in and mapping in miles and miles of jungle that nobody had ever mapped before.

04:38.87
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With very rudimentary equipment not too horribly different than what prres did I used a compass a lot of times right? real. But this isn't this isn't lidar. This isn't super great. Gps I had a gp as a unit I could only get a point every so often because well. The jungle covering is is thick so I feel for making these these maps in new places. Um I have had those times as I explained before where I only had a day and I just went for it I tried my best and what's so funny is is if I look at my map There's a map I made of one of the major centers we were working at in Belize is Maya site called yallbach my initial map I made in a day and I did my due diligence we had just gotten there. We had very little time. This is a mya site with pyramids and a ball court and all that kind of good stuff. I did my best and actually the finished map from that day is in my master's thesis but I look back on it and now in the intervening years. My I finished my master's thesis in 2000 in the intervening years much better maps have been made at ylbach. And if you compare the current map of y'all bach made using a transit spending days and days and days out there getting very exact measurements. It makes my map look laughable right? You can see you can look at it and be like I can kill a while I could see you had a day dude you tried and the.

06:11.97
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Basics are there much like the period rees map when you look at it like like the period res map in the center you're like oh yeah, that's Africa oh yeah, that's South America on on my map you can be like oh yeah that's the core of the site. But as you go away from like the core of the site where the. Obvious pyramids are as you go outward. My map gets more and more off you know to the point where there might be a pyramid on there. Not major ones but there might be a little one a little structure on there that actually doesn't exist. You know I know it is especially once you go. Outward from the site onto my transect which is a cut through the jungle. But as you get further and further away now. My date is good I'm not here to totally throw myself under the bus that happened last episode but. I am here to say that there are ways where even if you're doing your due diligence. You can you can screw it up and I noticed as I as I went over things again and again or as people made a much better map in the intervening years of y'all bach that you can actually find you know maybe a little structure or a portion of a structure that I Drew Drew it isn't really there I'd taken a wrong measurement. You know? Yeah I was 99% right? But I was 1% wrong and so instead of going where's the secret of mound 36.

07:39.70
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Mound 36 that Andrew King Kela mapped in. We went back. It's not there. Aliens you decide see how easy that is you know what? my dream is my dream would be is if. People from the future came back and looked at my old map from 2000 and went on a journey to find the missing map 36 and hopefully they never blamed me they never used the truth and be like yeah can call him must one up man you know he took me took the measurement wrong yeah happens. Right instead of that they're like the mystery of mound 36 and they come to like interview me and I'm like an old man and I'm like oh I remember it well mound 36 yes, it's not there taking like no taking. Ah.

08:35.87
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Taking no responsibility for my actions that would be great right? The mystery of mound 36 is just as nothing to do with that e think is just right? My simple screw up but a total I want to see a mini series on it tonight. The search for mound 36 full of the mysteries of the ancient maya where is mound 36 well it's in the pile of Andrew Canculla's screw ups is where mound 36 is and I bring this up just to show you that hey P Rees messed up a few times too and it's ok and the world's biggest waste of time would be the double down on the mistakes on the pe res map and that's what pseudo archeologists always ask for There should be more study on the PReMap no there shouldn't. That's a waste of time and they always say it's the best map from the sixteenth century and again remember this is made in 1513. That's early sixteenth century. It's the best map from the sixteenth century. No, it's not. Even Pie Rees made another one and I think it was 1528 or something but no, that is flatly false you know even P Rees would be like hey man can we look at my 1 from 1528 come on I fixed a few things Andrew Kingculls Map is the best map.

10:06.44
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Of the twenty first century no it's not see you see this this cherry picking of data and lack of like looking through this with with a conscious data driven eye is just that's all you need to do. Ah, so the the peie Res Map in terms of why we even know about it today is it is one of those things that that's actually kind of cool where a portion of it peberty re said he took from the original Columbus map and that could be cool. We all want to see the original Columbus map right? It doesn't exist and Columbus had to have made maps while he was coming to the new world but it does seem that some of the other maps ah use the knowledge from the Columbus map in later ways and. You know did p r reess have access to Columbus's actual maps probably not There's this other map at an inbet betweenen map between Columbus and Pety Reese that pety reess probably used for some of the new world stuff. But since anything Columbus sells so well there was this search. For the map or sorry search for the lost map of Columbus right? You're going to watch that show and actually in 1929. They re foundund the pea re map in turkey see that's cool.

11:34.24
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You know it had lain dormant for hundreds years nobody cared and then they refound it you know and and sort of called it initially the lost map of Columbus which it's not It's an amalgamation of many maps but hey it makes a great story right? when we come back? What to do. With the P Rees map