00:01.40 archpodnet Hello and welcome back to the pseudo archeology podcast episode 101 I am still your host Andrew Kingkella and I'm going to tell you what we should do with the P Ray Res Map so what to do with this thing. Should we expose it for the lies. It contains should we just kind of enjoy it should we forget about it should we be embarrassed and appalled that we even looked at it. No, we should just be chill with it. It's fun. It's interesting. It's the p res map you know, ah this reminds me so much of shroud of turin actually where it's one of those stories where the facts of the case again, this is not. A fraud right? This map was made in 1513. It's a real document but the reality and the awesomeness of it is covered up by so much Bs right? That's what's a bummer you know I want to I just want to enjoy it for what it is which is. Just a someone's take on what the world looked like in 1513 and he tried to make it look cool for a Sultan right? And that's fun. Let's enjoy that. What are we going to do with my m a thesis map from 2000. 01:31.92 archpodnet Should we run an expose on Andrew Cancullla Fraud again it's too late I've already done it. No, you know we enjoy it for what it is and for the time and for that time marker like for the shroud of Turin. The shroud of terr what was going on in 1350? What was it like in France in 1350 where the shroud of turin is that's what's so interesting right? Same thing with the peer res map what's going on in 1513? What's the world like in 1513? What's happening in the ottoman empire of 1513? Yeah, let's get into peery rees's mind. You know what he's trying to do because he is trying to make a world map of some sort he is trying to show everything he is trying in a kind of scientific way to bring together knowledge. Ah, but you know it's not going to be it ain't going to be perfect. Let's not cover it up with is this yeah Atlantis or not is this Antarctica or not right. It's not and those stories suck. You know let's let's get away from our magical thinking a bit we're so afraid to do that. You know let it go because. Magical thinking is a drug dude and it's a good drug who you feel magical thinking when it hits the vein. Oh. It's it's good stuff right? But I think we're afraid in terms of what to replace it with what are we going to replace our magical thinking with and. 03:00.90 archpodnet We can replace it with laughter and with good humor and with fun. We can beat the magical thinking at its own game right? and we can also even learn from something like the Pey Res Map we can we can take some of its notes into our modern map making. Ah world. We really can and I know that sounds weird for before I get to that first realize you know why besides cramming South America Onto the bottom of the page besides just the paper why why put that lump of land at the bottom. You know at the time there was this idea of terra australi incognita right? You can say it with me terra atraus in cognita which if we translate terra is land australis is southern. Incognita you guessed it is unknown unknown southern land so early mapmakers thought ok we have all these ah land masses in the northern hemisphere right? look at Asia north America you know, hey there's probably going to be about the same in the southern hemisphere to balance it out. makes sense. it's wrong but it makes sense you know if we think the earth has to somehow balance which it doesn't there's way more landmass in the north than there is in the south so they would err on the side of caution by putting more stuff in the south. 04:35.13 archpodnet You know I I have no idea it was down there but there's got to be something so you know we'll curve this around at close enough good enough for government work. That's what they're doing and I'm and I'm not saying that we should do that in our modernder map making I yeah, we'll just curve the stuff around the bottom none and no, no, no what I am saying. It's in the philosophy of map making as I tell my students mapmaking really is at the end of the day. It's half facts and it is half art because we have to remember what we're making is intrinsically odd and intrinsically a little wrong. We're making a flat. Representation of a ball shaped object right? We are making a flat representation of a globe. So unless you're making a globe you have to cut corners in some way you have to kind of change change things up a little. So. My note for us of today in mapmaking is not to do things scientifically incorrectly or or not factually. But after you have the factual things on do have and a little appreciation for the art of it meaning how it looks. To others I love g I s as much as the next guy but sometimes gis maps. They're a little boring. They really are you know and so an eye for perspective and I for making things even multi colored you know. 06:08.55 archpodnet You're not going to fault P Reese for his artistic style.. There's a lot of art on that sucker again it it bows into the world of the wrong. We don't want to do that but we want to have a feeling for that. You know I I do want a map that has a little bit of vibrancy to it. You know, give me both. I Want a factual map that also looks Good. You know and that's okay, it's okay to do that? Um, just just do me a favor and don't draw any dragons at the bottom.