00:00.00 Connor Welcome back to episode 1 of 4 of a life and ruins podcast we are here with us and us only and on this segment we are not going to talk about my life because it's it's tough. 00:14.64 archpodnet I I don't know why I was at an infinite loop I'm so sorry that. 00:17.82 Connor Could you give me 1 more brock I think I just need one more. 00:26.93 Connor We're not gonna talk about my life. Everything's fine I still work for the same company. It's rainy and cold in Seattle. Everything's good. 00:34.47 archpodnet The. 00:35.68 Cornpop Convincing. But now if you don't want to talk about it. We all the dark way. Um, so Ukraine huh. 00:36.47 Connor Fine, Just fine, fine just fine. Nothing has changed. Um. 00:43.99 archpodnet So Ukraine. Yeah I mean. 00:46.73 Connor We crane We all crane together right. 00:48.77 Cornpop We all we we crane for Greek like ice crane sorry people keep sending me zelinsky videos and I'm like okay the meme is over like. 00:52.60 archpodnet That. 00:53.11 Connor Oh my God okay. 00:58.23 archpodnet Well dude I mean do you know how many linsy videos like you made like the neanderthal thing one is gold but like yeah I mean there's going to be a res resist. There's going to be. It's like a ripple effect. Ah it. 01:03.27 Cornpop They got tick to give it 200 views I was so upset like that was really good even wore the same color shirt. 01:15.84 Connor If you haven't seen it. What is it on Tiktok Youtube 01:16.14 archpodnet Yeah, it's. 01:20.36 Cornpop It's on all the platforms. But only Youtube showed it to anybody. 01:22.26 Connor Go check out Cavemen zelinsky. 01:26.41 archpodnet Yeah, that was brilliant. 01:26.54 Cornpop Um, there's a move to shift away from the term caveman because it's a little offense I have but let's just use prehistoric individual I think it's still not right? Um, how dare you sit there with 2 arms. 01:34.76 Connor Cave person. 01:46.24 Cornpop You able it big think of the people who have one arm. 01:48.60 Connor A Cave dweller. 01:57.91 archpodnet There's There's this really a oh God we're so canceled. Um, so I mean I kind of connecting back to the last segment or we were or I mentioned the fact that we've. 01:58.54 Cornpop Palmer. 02:03.77 Cornpop I Am the. 02:13.66 archpodnet Almost been on here for for 3 years now and we started oh David stop. We started the podcast. 02:19.39 Cornpop Sorry I'm just ah we I think we should cut the part where I said Ableist Pig because Ofmelia no she doesn't listen but she just. 02:25.84 archpodnet Oh does she listen to the podcast. 02:34.35 Cornpop Ah, we need to be respectable today. The able is to give you. 02:36.65 archpodnet Oh Chris cut off the ablest part and also part right? asked if the deaf girl could listen to our podcast please or Rachel I'm so sorry and. 02:41.82 Cornpop Yeah. 02:47.89 Cornpop So you asked in so dead attitude to. 02:55.55 Cornpop But. 02:56.68 Connor Whoa He what's with. 02:58.77 archpodnet She says she yelld at me the other day for because I didn't put captions in the Cancun shooting videos. So she's like I'm so sick and tired of watching videos not being able to understand anything so I went back and Rachel cut all this out I went back and. 03:02.20 Connor Did you did you earn it. 03:02.56 Cornpop Like in what form. 03:18.81 archpodnet Downloaded all those and added captions and sent it to her. She hasn't listened yet or watched them sorry she can't listen um because then right now I know she's probably I mean I get it I fucked up but also is getting you know the whole shooting thing but also prior to that I haven't been putting captions on so it it was a long time coming. But I know the day that she finally does watch them. She's going to feel bad because it was a fucking traumatic shooting Cartel experience. Yeah, and yeah. 03:41.14 Cornpop Oh my God She just shouted at you. 03:45.13 Connor David what were you snorting by the way. 03:47.69 Cornpop Um, oh it's um, like the after care for my nose ring. It's like a mist. 03:51.63 archpodnet Yeah, sweet um, coming back. So connecting back to the last segment where I mentioned the fact that it's almost been three years that we've been live 3 years 100 and at that point we'll have 107 episodes I think out over 200 03:53.91 Connor Gotcha. Okay. 04:11.00 archpodnet 50000 downloads so almost 100000 downloads a year. Um bonkers. Thank you to my mother for listening to 99000 of those um and. 04:19.50 Cornpop It's pretty bonkers. My parents stopped. 04:20.93 Connor Hey my mom's like ah my mom's is the other thousand. 04:26.60 archpodnet I Think after the Revolutionary War episode. Yeah, your dad absolutely stopped. That's when he realized how about a bunch of frauds we were um, ah but we started this with but as young professionals as young Professionals I just was in my second semester my Ph D um. 04:32.14 Cornpop Um, Ra's jobs is too busy. 04:45.80 archpodnet I hadn't even got my master's yet and you 2 were a year out connor 2 years out David you a year out from getting your master's um and it was by young professionals for young professionals and it's been three years I'm finishing up my ph d this. July um David has now become mobile sidecommer and Connor has become very proficient at arcgis. 05:12.64 Connor Has made no progress in his life. 05:14.26 Cornpop A logistical. What is it. 05:20.40 Connor Um, has made negative progress in his steps in life. No I'm just joking. Yeah, yeah. 05:25.91 archpodnet Um, and also like our our our thoughts have I mean because we've been talking about this for probably a year now. How do we engage and like these. How do we engage better with our audience I mean our producers Chris and Rachel have pushed us to do stuff more like the dirt you guys really love the episodes where we talk about a paper. Um. 05:25.94 Cornpop Collector That's it. That's the one. 05:45.57 archpodnet Both Shane and Jesse said they'd like to come on and like talk about a paper positively and you know they're right. We can't just like throw people in the dirt all the time and I think you know me and David talked like a month and a half ago about changing kind of trying to play with different formats of the show. So it's not just like the interview and we'll still keep those. But not be so reliant and to actually get into research and talk about it. Um. 06:08.26 Cornpop Yeah, because like I think like when people listen and it's just like the same every time like so where'd you grew up where your dinosaur kid like it's cool, but like there. It's always an awkward like little like until like we get to know them and then the second segment they're good. So They can just off the Bat. You know be like no so here's what I do like it that might the audience like I guess I'm asking. You guys would you prefer that or like is the format Currently Fine. Um. 06:33.17 archpodnet Yeah. 06:37.20 Connor So ah I think we can. We can certainly build in different places where we don't need to have that first segment but I enjoy I think giving people that perspective was always our goal to start out with right? It was young professionals and showing how they move through these career paths even though they're not all the same. But I you know. 06:51.63 Cornpop Yeah. 06:55.83 Connor I Totally understand that having more research-based ones is I think was would be huge and more important and maybe have ah a bigger staying power I think in the future. 07:05.23 archpodnet Yeah I mean it has been interesting to see like we've had had listeners reach out and like think because because they can connect. You know that that first segment is a good way of connecting someone with similar experiences and they can see that but that doesn't always happen. You know I don't think we've had anyone else other than 2 and be like well I would. Learned how to fly first and then did this but you know, um, but no I and I enjoy the research episodes and I know what we have talked about it's like none of us have the mental capacity or have had it the past like year to really I like ah. 07:40.23 Cornpop Yeah, we've really like slowed down. 07:43.17 archpodnet On top of my research on top of the riveting stuff David was doing with his bus and like Conor I mean you know Connor you have been busy just you know focusing on your life. Um and going a lot of soccer games and like doing a lot of extracurriculars right? So I mean you have your own stuff. You're doing. 08:00.57 Connor So. 08:02.47 archpodnet Just haven't had the time to be like all right? Let's do go into this paper and like really analyze it to a point that we can talk about this with Authority Um, but I. 08:09.25 Connor Yeah, because we I mean once we do the to set up the other podcasts like these interview ones is a much simpler process when we basically got it down to a science. But when we want to do these these research episodes. We want to come informed. We don't want to do a revolutionary war podcast every single time. 08:17.20 Cornpop Right. 08:17.96 archpodnet Yeah. 08:28.29 Connor This happens So it's our it's finding that time and that mental power to really dive into that and we don't I feel like as a group we don't feel comfortable just doing that without actually putting in the effort beforehand to learn and and be informed so we're actually teaching people something. 08:29.88 archpodnet Are. 08:42.36 Cornpop Yeah, fine. 08:43.78 archpodnet Yeah, and like Doug would kill me if you found out I was like going hard on some articles and like and then it's not just like reading that one article I mean we have to look up the responses and some of the citations they pull so it ends up being like if we did it right? We're reading. Anywhere from 5 to 15 additional papers just to talk about the one and then it's all of us getting together and then making ah essentially a 55 minute episode into 3 pieces on how how do we succinctly talk about this. And like the 3 of us come from like wildly different backgrounds where we all come at it with a different lens and like how do we so that I mean that's what's going on on the backend guys like um, but we've we've heard you and we do want to do some additional things like we're hoping to have we're having um, coming up David Anderson David a Anderson from Tennessee his fuck David G Anderson um Stefan's coming back on. Yeah yeah, and he wants. Yeah, um. 09:37.82 Cornpop There G Anderson 09:44.75 Cornpop Right? Yeah, well yeah, he just wrote his book. We should have him talk about it. 09:52.41 archpodnet We've invited the hosts of the dirt to get on and we might do a cross episode with them because we could vampire off of their audience. Um, yeah, they're fun like medium in person was actually really fun. Um, and then. 09:58.71 Connor Yeah, we mostly um cause they're awesome and and kick that. 09:59.44 Cornpop Crossover. 10:05.54 Cornpop You look at. 10:09.58 archpodnet Ah, cultural anthropologist that studies the effect of drone warfare on drone pilots. Yeah and delaney. So we have a I mean we have like six six to 8 so that's kind of what's coming down the pipeline. 10:11.93 Cornpop Um, oh relevant. 10:21.66 Connor Yeah, and I think we're going to try to keep we. We enjoyed the live show I Hope you guys enjoyed the live show if you didn't please let us know. But I think that's something we'll probably do more in the future is very engaging being able to talk to people I I enjoyed. 10:38.84 archpodnet Oh we should do a live show after I get my doctorate. 10:39.20 Cornpop Yeah, we should maybe 1 morere then not than an italian airport. Um, it's pretty loud. You hope. Yeah, there's that to oh. 10:39.66 Connor That part of it is. 10:47.77 archpodnet Or Mexican one. 10:52.64 Connor Okay, no airports. We're just connected. We go We gonna cut out airports from the live streams. Yeah. 10:58.41 Cornpop Yeah, um, I'd also love to do one where like we just take calls from the audience. Um, but we'd have to like be really like you know, put that out. Ah way ahead of time so people actually call. 10:58.79 archpodnet No more airports. 11:05.77 archpodnet Yeah. 11:14.84 Connor Yeah, or use the features that they have already ah within that Whatever I can't remember what it was called but the live. Yeah. 11:21.76 archpodnet That was weird. Yeah because that was um, it wasn't zencastr. Um it was crowdcast. Yeah, you can only have 4 people that was kind of a. 11:23.18 Cornpop Um, crowd guest crowd guessing comcast. 11:35.17 Connor Yeah, and I had to learn on the fly How to manage all that so apologies for not talking. 11:39.63 Cornpop Yeah, good for you man. 11:39.96 archpodnet You did good though I mean you did good I mean we had like a bunch of people registered. We had fifty over fifty active people at one time. Um, there was a. 11:49.57 Cornpop Well, that's probably an app on the computer where we can have like telephone calls go to and which we could then play as this recording or I could just hold my phone up to the mic. Yeah, we did. 11:57.33 archpodnet That we can figure it out and we had a very lively chat section. Yeah, so yeah I talked to Simon recently he's doing okay, he's in he's doing data collection Scandinavia um. 12:03.80 Connor Very lively. Thank you. 12:12.63 Cornpop Oh so he can get out of the country I thought he was going back though I thought he was like going back to Ukraine. 12:16.39 archpodnet Yeah I mean that's why he was in italy no fuck. No he escaped? Yeah no, no, no, he had just landed from Ukraine in italy that's why I was at the airport with us the university of turin. 12:18.26 Connor Dude come on. 12:24.29 Connor Now he hit he like yeah he got an exemption because I I think some he had an Nick Yeah, well then there was something else that had to do with his family and past stuff that happened. 12:34.65 archpodnet Was able to get him out. Yeah. 12:41.79 Connor His family so he he was allowed to get out as part of the even though they have the like the 18 to 43 adult thing going on 1860 yay 12:45.83 Cornpop Gotcha 18 to 60 Yeah yeah, um, hows downer all right? Let's go. 12:49.74 archpodnet Yeah. 13:00.60 Cornpop Just thinking like molotile cocktails and stuff like do get you? Oh my god it's being told on the news like David Mu Lester Holt's like all right tonight here's how you make a molotov cocktail this is like there Stephen Colbert he's like all right guys. Um. 13:10.13 archpodnet Ah. 13:14.91 Connor Ah. 13:15.33 archpodnet Just yeah, yeah, gas prices. Ukraine. 13:19.80 Cornpop Yeah, oh yeah, gas prices are pretty high and I I think with the amount I put into that bus this weekend I saved at least 200 lives like I'm not even joking like it was a lot of money. Um I am joking. 13:33.94 Connor It's like almost six bucks a gallon would hit out here like diesel is like insane. It's it's a little wild. 13:37.40 Cornpop Yo I know? Yeah, but I know um it it literally I could have flown to California and back twice with the amount of money I put into that bus driving. Um, yeah anyway, um. Perspective we're doing good here. We're not being actively bombed or invaded so that's cool. Um I too though am proud of the podcast and how well it's it's grown. Um and something that I've definitely noticed is like and it's not through ethno really like it's through the pot ethno I get people like in other communities I guess. But through it for a life in ruins. It's like we are definitely like an inbetween for a lot of people in the field they're like ask Carlton ask David ask Conor or ask the guys and like we'll put people in contact which has been like cool. 14:19.76 archpodnet Yeah. 14:26.95 Connor Yeah, and I think just even like yeah even like when we were talking in that second segment or the first segment there's people that we mentioned that are all connected in this kind of weird way that we all have these like intangible networks that we're creating and it's really cool and it's been fun to meet. 14:42.60 Cornpop Um, yeah. 14:45.95 Connor So many people and so many archeologists. 14:47.50 archpodnet Yeah I mean it's been cool to 100% to ah I think like getting noticed when we have prospective archeology grad students at su boulder that's been fun and like the department is like why? Why is this a thing. 15:03.83 Cornpop D. 15:06.90 archpodnet Why is Carlton being known for this. 15:07.63 Connor Yeah, or like having a random ah I have a friend who works for the deficient wildlife up here in Washington and he took out an archaeologist to go dig clams and you know he was talking. You're like oh I know this other archeologist he did he hosts a podcast. He's like what. Podcast is a life in ruins. She's like oh yeah I follow them all the time. So. It's like these random corners and little pockets of the world that are listening to us and Rbs is pretty it's it's it's surreal honestly it's really surreal. 15:33.15 Cornpop Yeah. Yeah, and another person to decide. Oh that sounds like it'll be lit with Maybe we'll see some protests and riots. Maybe um, maybe yeah, that's what I'm trying to do um. 15:40.20 archpodnet Yeah, hopefully an Essay Portland will be able to like meet more folks. Yeah. 15:50.47 Connor Maybe we will take over City block. 15:57.87 Cornpop Ah that's what I meant by lit. But yeah, it's it's interesting because I've had several people now say like 1 like oh my god you responded and then like 2 like they like I've heard your voice so many times on the podcast and it's like yeah like I hate myself just as much as the regular person. So like it's it's okay. And like Carlton and Connor as well. You know it's just like we're people um and like it just it's weird to me that like our voices play every Monday morning in like someone's car or like headphones and like with the amount of shit I've said today that we've now said cut that to like. 16:31.59 archpodnet Yeah I mean like my coworkers listen to it and like what's funny is they'll ask because I work Tuesdays right now for my postdoc until I go full time in the summer if I don't get a tenure checkup position. Um like they'll ask me about the guest like the episode and like. 16:34.69 Cornpop That. 16:48.79 archpodnet Usually it's it's like a four or five week period between when we record and when they release so like excited to ask me about the guest and how it was I'm like I don't remember who came out today. Um, but also yeah. 17:01.53 Connor There's a little bit of like a blackout that happens when you record I think like a slate. 17:07.44 archpodnet Maybe we could go to buttzer farm like I'm actually pretty stoked for that that came out yesterday today but and I'm maybe in the summer I got to make a audio graham fort and send to him that was such a fun interview. Um, yeah I want to go make myself a sword. 17:10.98 Connor Today. 17:12.29 Cornpop Oh I didn't listen. 17:17.82 Connor Yeah, yeah, think. 17:17.83 Cornpop There was. He's a cool dude, a cool bloke. I Think that's every you know middle class white Kids dream. 17:28.88 archpodnet Yeah, like I'll I'll put down the headdress for a moment and pick up my you know English side and get into it. Just yeah, just. 17:36.54 Connor Um, you letpa enter a crusader out. There are. 17:40.16 Cornpop Just think of the end of lame is it is fine putting down your head stretch. Oh my god. 17:47.82 archpodnet And go and go connect with my British Isles ancestry 17:52.15 Connor Well thank you, thank you? Thank you to Carlton. Thank you to David thank you to all of the people out there listening to us this has been an episode of a life and ruins podcast if it's the first one go back and listen to episode 27 where we are real adults. 18:07.42 archpodnet Um, and if you're still listening on the all shows feed Please stop. 18:09.40 Connor Thank you, Thank you? Thank you? yeah. 18:10.28 Cornpop Yeah, and and and and it's your favorite time of the day welcome to NNprNews today we ask the haunt hitting questions where god won racism among cabbage species if you have not already. 18:15.68 Connor Oh. 18:24.71 archpodnet Listen. 18:29.24 Cornpop Posted a review to the podcast on Itunes on Spotify please post a review to the podcast on Itunes or Spotify any 1 of them just put a fucking view on but but. 18:36.43 archpodnet Oof wolf. 18:41.12 archpodnet Also like real talk. We owe a bunch people stickers and the reason why we owe you stickers is we don't actually have an address for you and this is what happens when David ad libs a promise that we have no way of fulfilling. So if you have if you have if you have left review. 18:54.80 Connor Um. 18:54.18 Cornpop I'm going to be a terrible father. 18:58.11 archpodnet Please email us at a life and ruins podcast at http://gmail.com screenshot the review your name and your address and I will have a sticker and a really nice note sent to you thanking you for all that for what you do, but I would just I just I have no way of finding your address off of review. So I know we're asking. 19:15.39 Cornpop Yeah, yeah. 19:17.42 archpodnet More of you. Um, let's see do we have any reviews any new reviews we have 5 fucking stars on Spotify I want. 19:20.58 Connor I Think ah a lease dropped us one saying that she's been a listing. 19:25.73 Cornpop Atise snyder he's the best dude no at least boy has's your name mallory malone my own. Yeah, give me 10 model. Um i'm. 19:29.25 Connor Mal alone I have if I out a them maroons. That's exactly. 19:32.48 archpodnet I don't I don't so I don't can you just rate it on Spotify but not review it? No but let me let me pull it eye attendes real quick. The archeology podcast. Sorry. 19:41.16 Cornpop I Don't know they might not maybe that's why we're not getting any I have an announcement for you guys and for everyone listening I am going to be a dead. 19:52.10 archpodnet Yes, what's the announcement. 19:59.87 archpodnet That's a really fun joke. So no, you're not. 19:59.93 Cornpop Um, I'm dead ass. No I'm not. 20:04.21 Connor I was actually thinking. That's what I should have said as part of my like review of my life like look back to episode 1 of a fueler of a life and ruins podcast I am a father. Okay, next. 20:16.46 Cornpop I I sent my old co-workers that um, as at guys I have some news and then I sent this a picture of a generic ultrasoundant from Google and like 2 of them sent back emojis like with a handcovering mouth thing because they like legit believe that I the dead I was like I was getting. 20:30.52 archpodnet Oh god these are these are good. These are good. Okay, so March Fifteenth by Elise I've been listening to life ruin since the first episode and it has been consistently fantastic. The show is funny and informative whether you are a professional archeologist or just someone who's interested in archeology have a good time. Well thank you for listening Elise and sticking around since the beginning. 20:47.56 Cornpop Yeah, she's been. Ah, she's an Og fan we should send her some swag. 20:49.21 archpodnet You If yeah, yeah, we'll send you. We'll send you some Swag You just got to tell us your address and I'll else I will still send you a sticker and a t-shirt. 20:53.58 Connor I think I think she's in Europe that also just. 21:00.52 Cornpop Archeo Duidan You are always reppping the stuff a Caleb welch I Saw you had a shirt the other day too. Thank you guys appreciate it and you always comment on stuff. 21:06.33 archpodnet Ah, and then donno freeolop freeal pods free old Pids recently discovered the Apn and really enjoyed the interviews discussions of bench on life and ruins highly recommend for people looking to learn about archeology from the across of people. Thank you milk manden milk mandan. 21:12.66 Cornpop What any. 21:26.28 archpodnet Ah, 2 3 2 wake up babe the boys just drop more tankersly slander. But really please review more papers hugely enjoy the boys and Dr Miller talking to through the hopewell paper would love to hear other papers gone over and gone through hearing closer discussion about the discussion being had is great content. Well we plan on doing it. Thank you so much milk mandan. 21:28.33 Cornpop Milkman then. 21:46.80 archpodnet Um, and then yeah we got the other one. So yeah, thank you guys keep leaving some more for April we'll let you let you all know and with that um, do you guys have any any last last words for guests. Okay. 21:48.30 Connor I Think we talked about the other one. 21:59.16 Cornpop Um I will not have children because there's no need to populate the Earth anymore than it ever will. So if you do hear me announce that I have a child. It is usually gonna be a lie. 22:10.40 archpodnet And with that we are out. Well everyone the time has come again. You've made it through the credits and for our bonus content Connor what do you have for us today. So. 22:23.39 Connor I will say because it's been four to five weeks since we last recorded I've been accumulating these dad jokes at a ridiculous rate. So I have an addiction. 22:28.81 Cornpop Who Miss. Hang on Guys. He's putting on his his gene shorts and his his new Balance. He's grabbing a spatula. 22:42.55 Connor The white sneaks are on. We're gonna do this I have an addiction to break fluid but I can stop whenever I want. 22:49.89 archpodnet I about Jesus oh ma'am. 22:50.14 Cornpop Um, you got? yeah. 22:55.48 Connor Oh my God Do you want to hear a terrible one that we should never put on there So okay, end it end it. 22:59.45 archpodnet Did not want a recording. Let me do okay ending it later guys. 23:04.80 Cornpop Better attack.