00:00.00 Cornpop Like Ape and is it recording? Oh it doesn't say recording on my screen um does it usually Yes, it does It's in the middle of the screen. Okay guys. Welcome back. 00:02.82 archpodnet Yeah anytime now. Oh. 00:14.76 Cornpop A life insurancens podcast where we investigate the careers of those living life in ruins I am your host David how and I am here with Doctor Carlton Shield chief gover and the other one and ah today we have all just gotten back. Well Carlton has stayed in Colorado Connor and I just left Colorado. And as you heard in the previous episode one seven with Dr Todderrevillell I told him that we were surprising Carlton for his graduation in Carlton apparently he wasn't surprised because his significant another and another friend significant another ruined the prize and ah either way, though he was happy to see us I think that was the story. Just um, this is ah this is dragging on as an intro but you guys just just but the what I want you guys to take from this is that I have had probably 4 hours of sleep since Wednesday we're recording this Monday night Carlton has had a Weekend and Connor has certainly had a weekend as well. Guys want to take over from here. 01:14.59 archpodnet I yeah so it's also episode 1 Oh eight I don't know if I have Rona or if it's a sinus infection but I feel I feel horrible right now pretty sure this is a fever dream i. 01:24.48 Cornpop Dude it Your body is probably just like catching up man. 01:27.90 archpodnet I didn't even drink all that much. But yeah, it was like four days four or five days of like nonstop hosting and events and oh god I'm so glad it's over I need to put my house back together. It's still a mess. 01:33.35 Cornpop Yeah man, you were busy. 01:41.00 mr_ sad Yeah, I'm still trying to put my life back together. But you know that's a that's for another podcast. Yeah I like I flew out at like three o'clock this morning dropped David off the airport at like seven o'clock last night yeah 01:48.10 Cornpop Mines up. Okay. 01:58.98 mr_ sad Stay up late every night you know the normal things you do when you're 30 and you shouldn't be able to do it. 02:00.22 Cornpop Yeah. 02:05.45 archpodnet So I'm surprised that we made it till like 3 a m Friday night. 02:10.32 Cornpop Yeah I think we we and Connor and Alex actually I should say that Alex and Connor didn't necessarily leave ah Lauren and I left and brought Connor and Alex with us. 02:24.95 mr_ sad Yeah, we were. We were non-willing participants to leave said fun said gathering. 02:27.70 Cornpop And. 02:29.71 archpodnet I I was good I kept I was like just buzzed for the entire night until towards the end I took a whiskey shot and that's what did me in but it was great seeing everyone it was it was like super weird to see all my different circles in 1 place. 02:34.97 Cornpop Same. Yeah, was ah. 02:45.43 Cornpop Yeah. 02:48.37 archpodnet And people that I don't normally associate with one another all there? Yeah yeah I guess I don't have to have one of those now that I had my graduation my fuck yeah man. 02:53.33 Cornpop It's like a wedding like you just see so many different people. Um, it's cool though. 03:00.29 mr_ sad 10 out 10 would not recommend. 03:02.12 Cornpop Is lan in the room by the way we'd never met Lana in person. She is a lovely and human being I wasn't gonna bring it up but you did so let's let's unpack that. 03:09.70 mr_ sad Yeah. 03:11.32 archpodnet Shep food. She had alcohol poisoning I would bring her to the hospital saturday. Oh absolutely no that yeah no, she I mean it was first time that she was drinking on her new medication and so just got to had to take her in thought Chris we should pull all that out I was. 03:20.59 Cornpop IP um 03:27.19 archpodnet This is the fever I'm sweating profusely guys if you guys haven't noticed like I'm not now we have to do it today. We have to do it today. So Chris looks back that up. So yeah. 03:28.33 Cornpop Do we do? We want to do this a different day like we can. Okay, um oh I Just want to also before you back into I Just want to formally apologize on audio for not getting the show notes done but to be a fair to be fair guys and this can get cut out to um. 03:31.68 mr_ sad Now. Okay. Back that ass of. 03:48.31 Cornpop I did the whole podcast on my own I didn't delete anything and I didn't make it go too far over well all I forgot to do is the show notes and I feel like a pretty good guy about that and I'm really sorry that I didn't get back to you guys in slack because my notifications are turned off and 3 2 1 and we're back. 03:53.40 archpodnet M. 04:05.56 mr_ sad We are very proud of David for his last episode. He did not call any of us I thought I thought at some point you were just going to call me and be like everything's broken but he stuck at the creek. 04:18.33 Cornpop He's stuck in the green room. 04:22.50 mr_ sad He started his own podcast. 04:23.19 Cornpop Ah, yeah, yeah, he was like wait. What is it? Um I was like just hit no on that. Um, yeah, so guys one first of all, this is gonna be 1 of those episodes where it's not a normal one so this is your first episode just go ahead and retract. Um, but also a lot of people. Know this. We do the whole podcast remotely and it's like I'm in Tennessee right now. Carlton's in Colorado Connor is in Washington and like we got to do the whole thing. Ah if you're remote and when we do the podcast Carlton has it down to a science. Well we can. We can talk to them about the. Ah. The letters and all the formal stuff that we do. But I just want you guys to know much like a stewardess or a Stewart or a flight attendant would be the word on the gender neutral on southwest airlines um, Carlton takes all of our guests through an inflight menu before the podcast and it is down to a science and like. Honestly I would have you do it because I know you know it by memory even in the state you're in right now, but the guys don't need to hear that the audience but but essentially it's just saying like hey so this is gonna happen. You can hit this button to mute. You can hit this if you raise your hand here you could give let us talk 90 point if you want to say something that. 05:26.95 archpodnet I No I put them. But yeah. 05:38.39 Cornpop You know you want to retract something just take a step and say 3 2 1 and go back into it and like he has it so down and I'm boring the shit out of all of you guys. So anyway, what else can we talk about. 05:47.70 archpodnet So while we did an experiment with Devin yesterday on. Ah so recording this Monday may ninth. 05:49.85 mr_ sad Yeah, good create. 05:49.88 Cornpop Yes. 05:59.67 Cornpop And here we go with. 05:59.92 archpodnet And I. 06:00.88 mr_ sad Ah, wait can we can We talk about how when we when we get together. We don't record things because we have too much fun together that we can't even possibly think about sitting down and making a podcast. It's. 06:11.48 Cornpop The. 06:17.74 archpodnet Yeah, we have to because because we're only ever together for like such periods of time and we'd rather like have fun and hang out rather than and every time we you know we always have something so like we're supposed to go to Miyowulf this past weekend. Last time we were together. We got stuck up on a mountain like every time we. 06:19.64 mr_ sad Hilarious to me. 06:22.57 Cornpop And right British booked. 06:22.81 mr_ sad Me. 06:32.42 Cornpop To suck in the power. 06:36.90 archpodnet Us to do something like it just does it so we get through the curveball. So yeah. 06:38.33 mr_ sad Yeah, when you like a video logger some someone to follow us around. It's just it's just shenanigans I mean we'll be can't we would be canceled immediately for you know. 06:49.13 Cornpop Anything that we say can and will be used against us in the court of law. Um, ah Carlton do we tell you? but I mean it's appropriate enough. It's it's public safety. Did we tell you about the child in the hotel room. So. 06:53.10 archpodnet Yeah, 100% 07:02.19 archpodnet What are you talking about? okay. 07:06.83 Cornpop Alex and Lauren and me and Connor are sharing a hotel room and as soon as we like finally all stop laughing about them trying to get me a mail order bride or some shit I can't remember what they were trying to convince me to do I was just I was on a level. Um. We just start hearing a child like screaming from another room and this is like one thirty two in the morning and like I was like okay it's a nightmare I had nightmares my whole life I know what this kid's going through. He'll be fine and like maybe a minute and like another minute went and like it was like death screams like oh my god so I stuck my head out the door. And it was the neighbors like next door in the hotel room and I heard them screaming I didn't hear like any hitting or anything like you know, like abuse wise that I you know could hear but the kid was just screaming and it was sounded like a mom just being like please please go to sleep and I was like all right. This is fine like their li'll go to sleep I went back to bed and then like then you just hear. And like a 3 again and were like braley's gonna be freaked out. Um and just kept screaming and then I was like ah yeah, I'm going to call the office and I like called the office and I was like hey there's a child screaming bloody murder in the room next to us. Can you like which and she's like I'll be right up and like went to go check it and. I stuck my head out again because I heard a door open and some old lady that was in a room down the hall was there like very concerned and we like looked at each other like ah and I said I called the office and she was just like she waited there until the office lady came and then the scream stopped but a guy walked into the room and he's like man. She's just on a tantrum and I was like oh all, right. 08:41.13 mr_ sad Yeah, yeah, well and and to get put some context Lauren who is crave Alex crave who's on has been on 2 episodes or just one I think too? Yeah, um. 08:42.83 Cornpop It was a 30 minute tension yeah so 08:52.58 Cornpop Yeah I think 2 Yeah, it doesn't matter. 08:56.83 archpodnet I'll now. 08:59.37 mr_ sad She she was kind enough to book this place for us just was trying to find something cheap and she has a ah history of but booking places next to next 2 areas that are maybe not the most desirable and. 09:12.83 Cornpop Yeah, it was not the nicest area of Denver I'll say that. 09:19.80 mr_ sad It's like right off I 70 right off by Thornton where and it was it was the place you'd expect to have domestic violence or ah child abuse happening next door to you in a hotel room. 09:30.66 archpodnet Did I tell you guys I saw a fucking gang shooting in Denver before my graduation. 09:30.91 Cornpop Yeah, yeah. You did tell us that I saw a drug deal. We'll go back to that. But yes, please tell the audience about ah about this Carlton can't get away from it guys. We got 8 minutes let's do it. 09:41.95 archpodnet I get I just cannot can and we still haven. It talked about the cancu trip either. But oh gosh. So so like I was driving home Tuesday from work at Denmo Museum of nature and science pulled up to a light and. Was like talking to Phil who was over like coordinating me picking him up the next morning and I heard what the Cancun police would describe as signs falling down and I I was like oh here we go again and then I heard like three more and I look over and just like it was 2 kids in a car. Ah, hands out with side arms or one got the driver had a side armm and he was firing at the car in front of him guess he killed the driver and once my light turned there like a busyass daylight intersection once my light turned green I zipped out called the police got home. Talk to a detective and he was like yes so you've given the most descriptive account so far we're gonna need you to come into Denver h q and like do a statement I'm like does't that only happen if someone's dead they're like yeah someone's dead like oh sweets and I drive back into. 10:52.43 Cornpop You have a Ph D in studying human behavior. So of course you gave like the best one That's really unfortunate. Actually. 10:52.96 archpodnet Denver during rush hour and like sit with this detective. And it it was kind of funny because I'd be sitting there and like so this is what I know is fact and like this is my conjecture and he was like dude I love the fact that you like are telling me what you know and then what you reflected on like yeah man, that's just how it goes and he told me I was his best witness ever. So. 11:12.39 Cornpop Good for you Man I'm sorry you I just need that though. It's like wild. 11:13.98 mr_ sad So yeah, so next week Carlton's dropping his new crime podcast where he just recounts through every episode where he almost gets shot and are killed I think he's already up to like 3 seasons full of content possibly at this point. 11:15.55 archpodnet He yeah. 11:29.87 archpodnet If I see a mass shooting I fill out my bingo card. Oh Jesus kick. Yeah, so that happened I guess over a month ago now um we had talked about it I think yeah so we talked about it a couple times on the podcast like without going into detail. Um. 11:33.19 Cornpop We need to talk about Cancun. 11:40.23 Cornpop You saw some Mayan mayhem. 11:49.66 archpodnet But this happened when I got when I was coming home from Cancun at the end of March and like we're pulling up to this terminal and people are like already running out my taxi drivers like wait here I'm gonna find out what's going on and I get out of the car and I'm like pull my back I'm kind of just like. Trying to flag people down and he's like okay you know so I pay the taxi drivers like it's going to be $50 I'm like what's going on is like well pay me and then I'll tell you so I pay him and then it gets in his tax and fucking drives off and just leaves me there I was like okay. So I'm standing around with like people are running onto the terminal and I'm like what's going on. So of course all it's an international terminal and someone's like there's a shooting in the terminal and was like should we leave and like we start backing off but then like airport personnel come out and they're telling us no no, no, it's fine. It's fine. Like 1 of the ah metal detectors malfunctioned and like popped was the shooting as he's saying this like this family is like running past me's like that's not what happened that man had a gun and they just kept running and I was like huh that's weird would someone in Cancun lie to me and so just kind of waited there. Ah, federalis and national guard show up they like lock down the terminal. Um, but then they start letting people in and I'm one of those folks that like go in to check my bag and sure enough I like get my bag tags and I hear shooting going out of yeah. 13:17.28 Cornpop Somebody was getting back to tagged. 13:22.50 archpodnet And someone so I heard shooting again and I was like I look up at towards security where the shots are coming from people scream and the stampede just happened and I booked it the fuck out of there with ah my giant pink duffel bag. Um, it was the there was the scary part was the ah was the stampede like that. 13:40.72 Cornpop Um. 13:41.33 archpodnet Amount of people just like running and you can see videos on Youtube and I also had a really good Instagram story. Ah, and I I was able to flee the terminal but while that was going on um taxis and buses kept pulling up and like dropping people off at the terminal like. The national guard nobody closed anything down. There was no like road security. They just had like a bunch of people with guns running into there while clueless tourists were also running into there. We're trying to tell people like hey there's a shooting don't go in there. They're like but when't the road be closed down. We're like we're not in America where. That kind of thing happens. We're in Mexico um I don't know it took like 3 hours to get back in nothing was delayed um and the official story from the Mexican government was that it was signs that felled down and created a loud noise and created panic. 14:23.82 Cornpop Oof. 14:38.36 archpodnet But like I saw ambulances carried bloody bodies away. So yeah, big, big old signs. Ah. 14:41.33 Cornpop Heavy Sign looney tunes oof good one. 14:42.33 mr_ sad There There was big slides. The signs were lo signs are looning looming over them. 14:50.47 archpodnet But like yeah I mean that was crazy like nothing was delayed and it was immediately within 2 hours things were locked up. They'd shut down the cell service in wi-fi for a bit like they locked everyone out. So like I didn't actually see a gun but I know what gun foer. Sounds like you know there's 2 shooting events and it's like yeah you know so like I don't know but that's how my Cancun trip ended was me like terrified on a plane trying to get home. 15:12.67 Cornpop You're well versed. 15:25.22 mr_ sad So facts. That's good. Okay. 15:26.80 Cornpop Yikes dude. 15:27.17 archpodnet Haven't had nightmares or anything I like talk to my therapist about it. It's like because my step dad was in so was in the state department and before I had gone. He had basically gave me the state department info on what's been going on in Cancun and he's like Carlton as long as you're not buying drugs I'm not going to kill you. Most violence in Mexico is cartel on cartel or someone that's fucked with the cartel like that's just how it goes so when the shooting happened I was like I'm safe. They're not going for me. Why would they but it was the stampede like trying to get out of the way because I was like hiding behind cars as people are running past me and there was this there was this point. 16:01.19 Cornpop Yeah. 16:05.67 archpodnet Kind of like looking back on how kind of Calm I was I mean there's absolute panic at one point but ah I was like trying to get past this lady this older couple and I got caught up in her bags and she looks at me just terrified and I just stop like it's okay, Ma'am you go ahead like please. And just like kind of let her get out and just stood there. Yeah, that was yeah so as we were ah yeah, trying to get so as we're like waiting to get back in the terminal. 16:26.56 Cornpop You see. There's some nice Jersey boys that helped you out to. 16:33.85 mr_ sad Poly D in the situation. 16:39.22 archpodnet And the reason why I went back is I wanted to get home so bad like the fact that everything had happened I was like the safest place I'm going to be is back in this airport and get out out home. Whatever's happened has happened but I don't feel safe here and I met um. Don and John like Don D a wn Don and John married couple from Trenton New Jersey yeah Don and John so there was a flight to Newark and so like there was a bunch of Jersey folks and so I was hanging out with them and there we all. Yeah and we all had this like. 16:59.90 mr_ sad Don and John Hor on 17:01.60 Cornpop Don and join. 17:09.14 Cornpop So they're used to it. 17:14.44 archpodnet Got everyone to put their um bags up against the wall. So if you had to dip out Again. We could just turn around and book it and so we're kind of passing the word along but here's another part like so the Mexican government would have us believe that it was like panic and Hysteria So as we're like back at the terminal. Ah, someone's unloading a car. Um, one of their bags like pops onto the sidewalk and immediately my brain goes to like oh fuck here. We go again and like you hear screaming and people like it like a wave just start to like book it and we were able to calm everyone down like no, no, no, it was just a bag. It's Fine. So I have a hard time believing that if a sign fell over at security that same reaction wouldn't have occurred where it's like oh no, everything's Fine. It's just a just a sign like the fact that security also took off and then the National Garden federalies is like came in people like. 18:09.42 Cornpop Yeah. 18:11.53 mr_ sad I mean ah Mexico is like known for its like out upstanding government and lack of corruption and or influenced by exactly. 18:13.73 archpodnet Yep. 18:18.51 archpodnet Yeah, it's the antithesis of a narno state. Yeah, a world model in dealing with crime. 18:24.32 Cornpop Ah, it's interesting. You mentioned the I know we get a wrap up here but like the stampede thing because I had a book I bought a the scholastic book fair as a kid that was like a survival book and it had like a camouflage like. Coding on the book or like a cover I get I don't know it was like is nylon. It was like a tent. Ah and it was all like how to build fires how to build shelters and I realized probably why I have that like ingrain in my head like to be interested in that. But ah, 1 chapter of the book was about stampedes and how to like protect yourself in a stampede and like. I never thought about that being like a hazard but like as an adult watching stampede and stuff like especially watching like Ukraine and the train stations and stuff I was like oh damn that is like a legit concern and then Astro world. Um, like like really, you can't do anything but like put a like I think it was like put a bag either on you or on top I can't remember what it was. 19:08.75 mr_ sad Oh yeah. 19:18.55 Cornpop Um, yeah, just the situation is don't be in it. Um. 19:20.20 archpodnet Yeah, if you can I mean I would have thought more as a kid that Quicksand was going be more of a problem later on in life and like it's like yeah was just like I don't know why is I was always worried about quicksanded lava but you get to an adult now. It's like. 19:20.49 mr_ sad Yeah, that. 19:24.82 Cornpop Right? They really make you think that worse than a heroin's bad for you is quicksand. 19:29.11 mr_ sad Um. 19:34.70 mr_ sad And because you've it this far you you wanted to be in quicksand and on that note we will end this segment. We will be back with episode 1 over 8 of a life and ruins podcast. We have 3 brain cells left and we will be back. 19:37.54 archpodnet Other crazy things. 19:37.56 Cornpop And nets. 19:51.17 Cornpop 4