00:00.00 Kanye West Of a life insuranceance podcast what happened oh welcome to imskin tonight I'm not Carlton welcome to episode 138 of a life nord podcast I'm here with my co-host or I'm David Howe 00:00.12 archpodnet Wait Do it again. I I didn't have hit the timer right. 00:17.60 Kanye West I'm here sorry David e and how David Howe I think is a football player and rapist on Google um I all I pack that up. Sorry Rachel welcome to episode one thirty eight of a light breduts podcast. My name is David Ian Howe and I am your host. 00:28.67 archpodnet Where we in. 00:36.83 Kanye West Today and my co-host I guess we're both co-hosts is here today that is Connor Cochrane Johnn and um and Carlton is not here today because he is flying back from lisbone porterugal and he was in atallia before that and who've probably canceled. Um. Anyway, it's okay I grew up around italian speak italian ah partly anyway, Carlton is not here so you know what that means Connor hit the horn. 01:03.98 archpodnet I don't know which one it is no, not not that one. Nope. 01:05.89 Kanye West Brown remember. 01:14.13 Kanye West All right I'll back it up one day all right. Carlton is not here Connor so you know what that means it's paleo Sunday but it's Saturday recording this paleo Monday for you guys all right? He's not here. He only likes pottery and indigenous stuff. We're we're here talking about mammoths sabertoothtigers cimmitar cats jews all right god damn it I keep thinking I'm doing my own thing on Patreon all right back it up. We're here talking about. 01:51.67 archpodnet Ah, you. 01:52.60 Kanye West I hope Rachel's high do and that's we're here talking about mammoths mastodons saber cutth cats scimitar cats giant beavers what's up Connor do you want to bring us in in some way. 02:05.67 archpodnet Yeah, yeah, so we're specifically gonna talk about the pleocene in North America because that's what we're familiar with that's where the cool stuff is the rest of the world sucks at that time and it doesn't matter. Um, yes, still sucks. So um. 02:14.29 Kanye West Yeah, still sucks. 02:21.45 archpodnet And general the pleistocene outward. What is it like the last 50 cashing I should know this. 02:27.68 Kanye West The pleistocene. It's like I think it's like 1000000 years 02:31.19 archpodnet Yeah, so it's like the last million years they're doing a whole bunch of weird stuff. A lot of climate things. A lot of heating and cooling of the entire world atmosphere and it presents itself differently in different environments What we're going to focus on. 02:46.59 Kanye West Ah, ah, 2.5 mill to Eleven Thousand years ago yeah 02:51.50 archpodnet Okay, yeah, so it's a huge huge period of time I think we're specifically more interested and going to focus on like the last little bit like the last fifty thousand maybe a 100000 oh wow notes good. What's what is the terminal pleistocene. Where would you. 02:59.23 Kanye West The terminal pleistocene Sorry I called to cut you off gone. That's just like the technical term I see for you. The dates I I call terminal pleistocene like. 03:09.97 archpodnet Would you bracket the dates. 03:17.37 Kanye West 15000 years on because like and we'll get into that. Yeah. 03:17.74 archpodnet Okay, that's like the terminal terminal like right as like the beginning and end of the the delays last glacial maximum right? Where things start getting wild. 03:33.40 Kanye West Yeah, where humans are you know all over the place doing some stuff they're in Australia they're in at least way North North America ah, and they're in Africa europe no humans ever made it to Iceland. 03:37.75 archpodnet Crazy crazy things. 03:50.50 Kanye West Ah, inhabit it the norse but the first to get there so that is the only place that has not been colonized hit that button. 04:02.46 Kanye West They did colonize the local foxes or something like that probably but you know what can you do? ah New Zealand Polynesia wasn't populated till like three thousand years ago to like you know, five hundred years ago really in like most spots. So ah. 04:14.97 archpodnet And Australia was like 41 right that's when you see 50 Okay, that's when they row in boats down from Indonesia papua new guinea. 04:19.40 Kanye West 50 Yeah yeah, yeah. 04:27.98 Kanye West Possibly took a land bridge but you know you use that word and you're gonna get all the hate. Ah, but yeah, possibly swimm in boats I think Stefan's a big proponent of of that swimming boats and went in boats. Um and possibly home. 04:38.99 archpodnet You put water in the boat and you swim in it right? and you. 04:43.50 Kanye West Yeah, it's like a chi real good ice bath kind of situation. Um, and they're like yeah o me. Ah, but yeah, it's trying to get their athletic greens. Ah, but anyway, ah, possibly homo erectus made it to Australia. But we definitely only see modern humans get there about fifty thousand years ago um and a common question I get on the internet. All the time is are australians modern humans and I'm like I'm just going to leave that one on on red ah well like if we want to say that humans reach their behavioral modernity. 05:12.16 archpodnet That's I mean it's It's not. It's not clear right? it's. 05:21.58 Kanye West Forty Thousand years ago in Europe like with all the cave art and stuff like that. The people that made it all Australia Fifty Thousand years ago wouldn't be but with later populations of modern humans going in there. They would be completely replaced like they were everyone else. So but I mean I think a hundred thousand years zomb were like. Modern humans. It's just cultural spread more so than evolutionary spread if that makes sense. 05:41.57 archpodnet Yes, so it it would be you. You wouldn't see it it and in the the bones or anything like that you would see it in the material culture and that stuff more than anything. 05:53.66 Kanye West Exactly and like Vinny said like if you find Danny Devito in ah italy his skeleton and then you find Shaquille O'neill in Africa or let's say like yaoing in China you're going to think those are different species. And like we're going to lump them into different things and or split them into different things but they're all human so kind of doesn't fucking matter. 06:17.46 archpodnet Yeah I'm on I'm on demon that um and so in in North America specifically like the last hundred thousand years it was just like a series of like getting cold like at one hundred and twenty thousand years that's where like the the last interglacial period is where things are warm better. 06:35.58 archpodnet You're making wine somewhere I don't know there's usually some things like you could make wine in Alaska it's always like the the joke I know it was just like I feel like I hear that a lot on like news articles like oh the climate will change. You can. It's always like you you can like. 06:42.90 Kanye West Really. 06:53.80 Kanye West Ah. 06:54.97 archpodnet Have grapes here or something. It's like a marker which doesn't matter. But but yeah, so everything just starts. 06:58.63 Kanye West Gotcha I Always kind of understood the pleistocene. Oh yougo you I think what you're gonna say is like I kind of always understood the plesocene as like especially towards the end of it like a lot of like. Warming and cooling phases with the younger dryus being a spectacularly warm period. But it's kind of like when you have the flu or Covid you're like hot and then you're cold. So like you just take the blanket on and off so like species couldn't adapt to that like rapid change in climate. 07:29.36 archpodnet Yeah, and then this this occurs all through the last five hundred Thousand years of the place seen you're doing this up and down so you're having probably having species die off periodically through all that or surviving if they have the right setup for it. Um. 07:41.53 Kanye West Yeah, oh you know there might have been a bipedal primate that used fire that was pretty good at killing things. 07:46.79 archpodnet Yeah, so that's. 07:57.98 archpodnet We'll get to that we'll get to that and and we'll get to that. Um, so in in North America specifically there's a lot of weird or weird to us animals that are there and you mentioned a couple of them in the beginning. Do you have a favorite. 07:59.38 Kanye West We'll get to that. 08:14.91 archpodnet Out of all those like do you have do you have like a megafauna boy. 08:20.76 Kanye West Ah, maybe I mean I definitely have a clear favorite but just to to mention like the glypta dot like what an interesting little animal. It's like a dinosaur essentially but like also a beaver. Ah I think I think it's a like a big Beaver type where it's a giant. 08:31.62 archpodnet Yeah. 08:37.27 Kanye West I'm not mistakeking a giant rodent. Um, um, let's let's fact, check that but ah looks like 1 just an armored beaver. Um, let me hang on. 08:37.34 archpodnet Yeah I think that's right. 08:49.57 archpodnet I Think they're the ones in ice age you see those um in the movie ice age. 08:52.49 Kanye West Yeah they're like a family and he's like we're on the March ah genus of glip to Don Mammalia family wait what andilia couldrada sing you lotta where's that oh armadillo. Duty cool. So yeah, close enough. Ah giant armadillo those are pretty cool but like if you think about too like megalithereum like the giant sloths like could you imagine seeing mammoths seeing bison seeing wolves seeing lions seeing Reindeer Campbell's horses. Your whole way. Let's say through the land bridge or you know swimming from Alaska or Russia to to Alaska right? and then just somehow popping back on land. Um, yeah, you're going to see all those animals but they're going to get down further south to like I believe you know the southwest and the southeast for sure. And there's this giant thing that's like real slow climbs trees and has giant claws that just shears trees and it's like ah probably like that's probably the sound it made and you'll be like what is this thing let's shoot it and that's what they did. 10:06.38 Kanye West And we know that because of some special footprints in white sands not those special footprints but the other footprints directed by Tarantino where he was really in defeat and there's a human and sloth duke in it out. Yeah. 10:20.22 archpodnet Wow, That's wild. Yeah, just they're just like languid creatures like very slow moving like you would ah like a sloth but just like you just supersized it right. 10:30.90 Kanye West Yeah, and it's like just ah, a slos so I think only exist in what central America South America now um so they're like just a very specialized creature. But yeah, you're just walking on a continent with all that that crazy stuff we can get it more into it. Um, but I would say. 10:34.13 archpodnet Think so. 10:46.38 Kanye West Favorite ice age animal I mean the diar wolff for sure. But it's kind of a cop out but ah yeah, sabert tooth cats are cool but I would say yeah like favorite megafauna is just mammoths I find them fascinating they're like. 10:50.52 archpodnet Yeah, what do you do study dogs or something. 11:03.96 Kanye West Just elephants but Harry I bet they probably worked the same way or like had the same intelligence or um herd structures and stuff but probably a lot different in some ways because it was cold adapted more so than warm. What about you. 11:05.95 archpodnet Yeah. 11:18.44 archpodnet Yeah I I'm ah I'm I'm also a fan of the mammoth just because I think of the associations with humans that we have and I think that's it's always interesting to think about how like clovis people running around like stabbing these big boys. If they did it. You know I think it'd be super interesting if if I did. Ah. 11:38.28 Kanye West If they did it. We could have a paleo Indian write a book called if I did it? Ah ah, ah continue. Ah. 11:50.97 archpodnet Um, if I did is that the larell story. Ah, um, my my favorite. My favorite though is the short face bear come on. Yeah. 12:04.47 Kanye West Ah, oh damn, that's a good one I Believe there's no evidence of people hunting those. 12:07.72 archpodnet Yeah, just like this I have to see how tall it is like. Yeah, think think that's think that's a good call. It. It was standing on its hind legs. It was 8 to ten feet tall walking on all fours. It was 3 to five feet tall six. It was like half a ton. 12:15.22 Kanye West Kept a wide berth. 12:31.67 Kanye West Yeah Leonardo Dicaprio should stay away. 12:33.42 archpodnet Wow. 12:38.32 archpodnet Yeah I got my boy. 12:45.27 Kanye West Har. Ah, my favorite quote from that entire movie is I mean this many I'd say but it's when Tom Hard is like protect the pals the way he says it the pals. Ah. 12:58.21 Kanye West Just say that all the time when I have to pick something up. Um, what are we saying? Oh yeah, yeah, ah the short face bear too like that probably was like super aggressive with those long arms it had because it had longer arms than ah other bears. Um, probably for. 13:01.77 archpodnet Yeah, the. 13:16.15 Kanye West Um, assuming predatory reason wouldn't make it faster maybe climbing. 13:19.23 archpodnet Now now. Yeah, it could be climbing. It could be reaching certain things and trees or whatever. Um, and they could and there's some research out there that they could that suggest that they could run between 25 to 28 13:28.18 Kanye West Yeah. 13:36.97 archpodnet Miles per hour. 13:38.40 Kanye West So staying corrected I mean how fast I guess Mono Bears can run pretty fast when they're after some um. 13:40.96 archpodnet Yeah I mean look that up. But yeah, so you have like a ten foot tall half a ton tank running after you I think I think they wide berth is a is a solid choice. 13:55.30 Kanye West Wide Berth yeah would help if he had dogs to bark at it. But we don't know. Ah yeah, let's see that's a fast boy. Um, oh. 14:01.38 archpodnet Brown bears can get up to thirty five miles per hour so it's just like a big. Yeah super fast boy. 14:13.17 Kanye West Megafauna Cave Hyena for sure. That's not north American Cave vis are cool because they had longer legs and were probably more coursers than they were scavngers and just like populated all those caves and you would have walked in and it would been like and you'd be like uh-oh not this one. Not this one. 14:13.67 archpodnet Oh okay. 14:31.50 archpodnet Yep Bye Bye Um I would mention. 14:31.33 Kanye West Yeah, and they like all the sounds they make and stuff like that the laughing and the cackling and stuff and that like hissing sound they make but like twice as big so like deeper kind of scary. Yeah yeah. 14:45.40 archpodnet And like amplified in a cave that would be insane. Yeah um, I'm also going to throw out that the the american horse I think it was cool that we had horses in North America that were not spanish brought. 14:50.45 Kanye West It would be pretty nuts to hear. 15:01.99 archpodnet At some point our boys That's a good boy. 15:02.10 Kanye West Shout out to our boys. The horse keeping people moving 3000 bc as ah, that's a good. Oh yeah, red dead. You're a good boy. Yeah us I thought you were doing the revenue again, but also yeah, like. 15:10.80 archpodnet Red. 15:19.37 Kanye West And France they're driving them off cliffs and stuff eating the shit out of them. Um, musta taste pretty good or I guess it was they were easy enough to scare off the cliff I guess maybe ah but we I guess who was telling us that somebody was. 15:28.54 archpodnet Is that where they got all their glue too. 15:36.59 archpodnet I'm just joking It was just making a bad horse joke. 15:38.88 Kanye West Ah, so I guess it was will so he mentioned something about Kaho glue but that maybe was something different. Maybe that was in person. 15:46.56 archpodnet Um, yeah, sure maybe it was yeah shout out to ah will Taylor still studies this stuff. Um, wills. 15:52.88 Kanye West Yeah, wos our boy. Um, yeah, so pleistostein horses. Oh I posted a Tiktok yesterday and it was like ah an um amalgamation or a Slideshow of the paintings a tori does for me. And I put little captions to them and it got like 300000 views like within a day I was like damn um, but all these people were like ah number 7 is inaccurate. There were no horses in North America otherwise great post and I'm like dude holed up and a bunch of people went in and like corrected them for me but I still did that was probably the most frequent thing I got. 16:07.30 archpodnet Um. 16:25.41 Kanye West Um, and it's like no horses evolved in North America they then left along with camels and when the ice oh excuse me when the sea corridor that they swam through froze up. Um, they couldn't make it back across so they got stuck and then llamas being like all the way. Cold adapted up in the highlands came back down and they're like guys. All the camels are gone and the horses up. So but yeah, they they came from here and that's why like the blm um horse problem is such a thing because like we want our european and asian and middle eastern. Cattle to graze the lands out here but like it was actually ruminated by horses and bison for millions of years and now cows huh. 17:10.60 archpodnet Oh I didn't I didn't even think about that. That's why those populations do so well like. 17:19.73 Kanye West Yeah, because and the problem is too. They ah shout out Dalen Grindle I think she told me this but they ah um, like horses eat the food like the plant that the foliage that they're eating at the root and pull it all the way out and that's there before everything gets barren. 17:31.93 archpodnet M. 17:37.26 Kanye West Um, but the cows eat just the grass So like it'll keep the grass pretty green um and like fertile so it can go again, but horses pull the whole thing out. So when you have if it was just horses going out there like living and existing and I guess bison did their own thing. Um, it didn't. I Guess it was a balance right with bison and horses doing that but like now with cows needing all that grass out there to feed the beef industry horses just get shot at Helicopters. Yeah, it is pretty wild. 18:05.84 archpodnet Gosh That's wild. Yes I know a goats I think it's goats do the same thing right? They they rip from the the root and and completely clear stuff out. 18:16.57 Kanye West What a weird animal dude like god or Charles Darwin's ghost was just like let me just stick some horns on a mini little cow thing and give it cross eyes and it's going to chew sideways and go like like he could have done better. 18:32.15 archpodnet And then and then and then we're gonna put but we're gonna allow it to like. 18:35.44 Kanye West She they is God of they. 18:40.65 archpodnet On the next episode of a life and ruins podcast. We figure out if God is a day and out that at this point we're gonna take a little break and we'll be right back. 18:45.22 Kanye West Um. 18:50.45 Kanye West Is everyone who prayed to god as a he or is she not in heaven because they're canceled tune in next week