00:00.00 connor Even in Mo Minnesota bro. 00:02.51 David Howe Um, hey are we recording Kay Chris or original can you cut that last bit out of about me ah lot of and I don't want to like freak people out. But I thought we were not recording anymore all right and 3 2 1 welcome back to episode one forty five we're in a third segment here with me and Carlton and Connor. 00:08.48 archpodnet Ah. 00:10.77 connor Ah. 00:20.32 David Howe Talking about vikings and Norwegians and ah people who commit viking acts of Norwegian descent is what I should say. 00:27.53 archpodnet Yes, and so the vikings in Minnesota and vikings in Minnesota are like a well-known hoax and like ongoing bullshit issue within. 00:33.51 David Howe It's like keto. It's a lifestyle. 00:44.81 archpodnet Popular culture. But more recently now we got vikings in Oklahoma. That's so that post I was talking about in segment one I was talking about like viking rune stones in Oklahoma and so um and this has spurred this idea that is even like far more fucking far fetch. So like how did. Vikings get to minnesota well they got to Newfoundland followed not the James River the Hudson River um no what am I talking I didn't look at a fucking Map Map of Canada. 01:15.48 David Howe Um, Hudson goes down New York's how Nick sense. Ah. 01:16.70 connor St. Lawrence 01:20.00 archpodnet St. Lawrence River into the great lake and they could like access the great lakes. That's how they got to Minnesota this theory of how they got to Oklahoma is now they sailed all across the East Coast around the Florida panhandle and like up the Mississippi River like now we're adding a ah. 01:27.27 David Howe And I. 01:37.51 archpodnet Like Minnesota is pushing it like it's bullshit, but it's like okay. 01:41.94 David Howe But see that means though if they're going through the caribbean ah they're going to come into classical mayas at that point and be trading with them. So let's look for some obsidian back in Norway there'll been these volcanoes there already. But. 01:52.97 archpodnet Yeah, it. It's ah additionally like in the viking sagas. They talk about getting to Newfoundland like it's mentioned and that's really like well maybe this is legit. They don't ever mention Minnesota. They don't ever mention fucking oklahoma they don't mention like the vikings themselves. Don't talk about it more importantly, indigenous people of the Americas don't fucking talk about it. You do find groups that do talk about Newfoundland they're like yes, but like so the 2 groups that we're talking about that would have been their fucking nothing. They're not saying. Ah. God damn word about it and this is a case of very similar to what's happening what happened in Minnesota the the people that are perpetuating perpetuating these rune stone meths or vikings in Oklahoma are of scandinavian descent. So it is the same. Cookie cutter bullshit argument. They're scandinavians in Oklahoma and this is being way more wrapped up at this point with white nationalism specifically in Oklahoma. So there's like a couple places and and it's and they're debunked in a very similar manner to the kensington runestone the geomorphology doesn't fit the taonomy of the artifacts don't fit and the rune some rune stones themselves are not rune stones from that age. They're much more modern, much more like kingdom of Norway kind of rune stones. Um rune stones aren't homogene. 03:23.45 archpodnet homogenous homogenous homogenous homogenous right like other languages like other alphabets rune stones change and so these are easily discredited discoveries. So I'm sorry for our listeners. There are no vikings in Minnesota. 03:24.77 connor Yep yep, mogenous. 03:39.24 connor But ah. 03:42.77 archpodnet The vikings never sailed the Mississippi River and into Oklahoma either. 03:45.85 connor Ah, yeah, well, the crazy thing is that there's that there's Wikipedia pages with this now. So we have it's gotten big enough to where they're wanting to write about this in Wikipedia and they are correctly citing it and saying it's incorrect. These are all been. 03:47.25 David Howe Can't say they you go. 04:01.77 connor Proven false. There's been. Master's thesis on one of the rune stones. So guy was like I'm going to tackle this in my master's thesis and and disproved it so they are growing and I wouldn't be surprised if this grows into other. If. It's Alabama or if it's Mississippi or if it's somewhere else like that that shit did wouldn't surprise me a little bit. 04:20.58 archpodnet Oh Hawaii Connor that ship has sailed to Hawaii that there is a hawaiian viking ship hoax and this was perpetuated in April First nineteen thirty six by the honolulu star bulletin which published a story about a viking ship discovered in Hawaii. Which is accompanied by a photo of the rare find. However, no such thing was ever discovered there. So like in the. 04:44.70 David Howe That's because there was a conversation at a bar where 1 guy said I hate you how lays being here on our island and the guy was like well you know what we were here first bro then that's what that started as guarantee it and then he died in Pearl Harbor what 04:55.28 archpodnet Yes, and these these sames possibly this was 1936 so yeah um 05:01.40 David Howe May have been a sailor at a bar I'm going to hell that's cool. Guys's what it gets for lion. 05:10.20 archpodnet Ah, that's we've lostqua of Carter has exit. The Chad is's dead lost his. He's crying. Um. 05:14.68 David Howe You guys the rule of comedy if it's if it's ten years later it's fine to laugh about. 05:22.71 archpodnet That's it's and it's been eighty years since since per armor 82 years will be 82 man there's still men trapped aboard Arizona David there's still there. it's it's it's it's a word. Great. 05:25.52 David Howe The bubbles coming out of the Harbor they're laughing. 05:27.62 connor Ah. 05:32.79 connor Yeah, cook can we queen. It's still we oil. It's still actively weak oil. Okay. 05:36.75 David Howe Men or half eaten bodies all right. 05:39.50 archpodnet And. So but like even if but but what's crazy about this is like we're we're like a lot of this stuff because there's not much academic literature on it. There's academic literature particularly on the newfoland stuff because that is archeological context that has been studied. But if you're just like google hoax is a bunch comes up. But like if you look at the comments section these webp pages people are losing their fucking minds like no, this is true. This isn't a hoax um and then like the history channel perpetuates it because there's also this like curse of Oak Island show I don't know if anyone's watched it I can't get into it like I usually love dumb shit like that. I can't get into the person. Well, they're recently one of the more recent episodes they think they found a viking artifact. Um, yes, um, no, that's roanoke. But. 06:17.13 David Howe Is that about vikings I thought it was about just like to kind of like ah. 06:23.61 David Howe Yeah, where is Oak Island Virginia Rowan oak right? Okay so I thought it was a show about roanoke. 06:32.88 connor Nova so Nova Scotia it's Nova Nova Scotia 06:33.57 archpodnet But the lost colony of Roanoke is in the Carolinas but there is a Roanhoke Virginia